August 7, 2019 – Rich Lowry being Rich Lowry, in other words, Pro-Trump,
Immigration Restriction Is Not Hate
“Trump is not a terrorist, a supporter of terrorism. To suggest otherwise is a slander born of partisan hatred.
By RICH LOWRY
August 07, 2019
Rich Lowry is editor of National Review and a contributing editor with Politico Magazine.”
Me: Trump IS a terrorist, is a supporter of terrorism. Not slander, a fact! Not out of partisan hate, I have never voted in a Democratic primary in my life.
Me: January 6th ring a bell?
RL: “President Trump’s immigration agenda has always been considered exclusionary and prejudiced by progressives; now they consider it tainted by mass murder.
The El Paso massacre, carried out by a white nationalist waging a lunatic war against Hispanic immigration, is being used as a bludgeon against Trump and immigration restriction more broadly.”
Me: Trump’s immigration agenda is based on MONEY!
The Stats on Border Apprehensions
Southwest Border Migration FY 2019
Me: Sessions and Trump was making MONEY for Donors.
Me: I drove 1,700 miles to say HI! and make a donation.
Me: Someone else drove 700 miles to KILL the people I said HI! to.
Me: Trump owes El Paso $569,204 and an apology for every tweet with the word “infest”
Me: “invade”
Me: “invasion”
Me: Trump owes El Paso for the ugly things Trump said about El Paso AT El Paso
El Paso officials denounce Trump’s border comments ahead of his 1st 2019 campaign rally
El Paso, Texas Crime Rate
Me: Rich Lowry’s Hometown’s Crime Rate? Arlington, VA Crime Rate
Me: Speaker of the House’s? Bossier City, LA Crime Rate
RL: “After years spent trying to rule immigration restriction out of bounds, as much as argue the merits, the left is doubling down on ruling immigration restriction out of bounds. “
Me: You know Trump has never cared about reforming immigration. This has been about cruelty to garner support from his nativist base. “THE WALL” was a campaign slogan to energize his base.
Me: Trump tweets for one reason – lather up his base.
Me: Trump tweets whatever Fox and Friends, Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity tells him to tweet.
RL: “It can’t be that the only reason for protecting the border, rejecting bogus asylum-seekers, reorienting the legal immigration system toward skills rather than family unification and reducing overall numbers is rank hatred bordering on homicidal malice.”
“ejecting bogus asylum-seekers,”
Me: By law a HEARING is required to determine the bogus-level of each asylum seeker. Perhaps instead of building an ineffective wall we build more immigration courtrooms and staff them?
Me: Seeking Asylum is LEGAL!
8 U.S. Code § 1158.Asylum
“reorienting the legal immigration system toward skills rather than family unification“
Me: Hmmmm… Chain Migration? Trump’s Wife’s Family you mean?
The Myth of Chain Migration
What “chain migration” really means — and why Donald Trump hates it so much
Melania Trump’s Parents Visit Immigration Office, But Want to Keep Citizenship Journey ‘Private’
Melania Trump’s parents take citizenship oath in New York City
“reducing overall numbers is rank hatred bordering on homicidal malice.” You mean ?
Me: Homicidal Madness aimed at who?
More than 175 killed worldwide in last eight years in white nationalist-linked attacks
“At least 16 high-profile attacks have been motivated by white nationalist conspiracy theories”
3 Years After the El Paso Shooting, “Environmental” Nativism Is Spreading
“Racist attacks in which shooters claim to be motivated by environmental concerns are becoming increasingly common, as is the ideology behind them.”
RL: “It can’t be that the only choice is between extremely latitudinarian policies that allow asylum seekers into the country, often never to be seen again, or mass murder.”
ME: This is a lie, perpetrated by taking a snippet from Acting DHS Director, and twisting it around.
How many migrants show up for immigration court hearings?
FACT CHECK: Asylum Seekers Regularly Attend Immigration Court Hearings
Most Released Families Attend Immigration Court Hearings
Most Released Families Attend Immigration Court Hearings
The latest case-by-case records from the Immigration Courts indicate that as of the end of May 2019 one or more removal hearings had already been held for nearly 47,000 newly arriving families seeking refuge in this country. Of these, almost six out of every seven families released from custody had shown up for their initial court hearing. Usually multiple hearings are required before a case is decided. For those who are represented, more than 99 percent had appeared at every hearing held. See Figure 1. Thus, court records directly contradict the widely quoted claim that “90 Percent of Recent Asylum Seekers Skipped Their Hearings.[1]“
Under our current system, there is no legal requirement that immigrants actually receive notice, let alone timely notice, of their hearing. Given many problems in court records on attendance and in the system for notifying families of the place and time of their hearings, these appearance rates were remarkably high.These and other findings discussed below are based upon an analysis of court records conducted by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University. These court records, updated through May 2019, were obtained through a series of FOIA requests submitted by TRAC to the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).
Me: “or mass murder.” Immigrants commit less crime than US Citizens. Pop Quiz Rich Lowry! Of our 727 Mass Shootings this year as of 2:43pm Central on Sunday, December 17, 2023, have been done by immigrants? Research That Rich Lowry!
Illegal Immigrants and Crime – Assessing the Evidence
Why Are So Many Mass Shootings Committed by Young White Men?
Confronting White Supremacy
RL: “It can’t be that the only respectable position on immigration, safe for the general public, is whatever the Democrats’ center of gravity on the issue is at any given time (which is always in flux and always moving left).
First, let’s stipulate that Trump’s words on immigration often are crude and inflammatory and he should realize that the president of the United States shouldn’t talk about this issue like he’s a click-bait columnist for RightWingNews.com.”
Me: I can not speak for Democrats, but I have A Simple Plan: Treat everyone with dignity and compassion. Honor their Rights (yes, immigrants are covered by the 14th Amendment!) An Immigration System that makes sense. Treat refugees and immigrants with respect. Utilize existing asylum laws and guarantees everyone a timely, fair and just hearing. How? More immigration judges. More staff. More courtrooms. No Detainment. 90% DO SHOW UP! We can find the rest…
“To be an American means to have been an outcast and a stranger, to have come to the exiles’ country, and to know that he who denies the outcast and stranger still amongst us, he also denies America.” —Robert F. Kennedy, 1967
RL: “he should realize that the president of the United States shouldn’t talk about this issue like he’s a click-bait columnist for RightWingNews.com.”
Me: THIS IS THE PROBLEM RICH LOWRY! LOOK! Dec 2023!
Two months earlier:
Straight out of “Mein Kampf”
Did Trump Echo Hitler with Remark About Migrants, ‘Poisoning the Blood of Our Country’?
“”Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country,” Trump said in a September 2023 interview.”
When talk radio and far right media keeps beating the drumbeat of hate, some people are listening and watching….. the hate has to stop.
Me: Must-Read Rich Lowry: Trump-Supporting Friend—This Really isn’t About Donald Trump
Me: I have known for YEARS that Donald Trump is a BIGOT.
Me: When Trump won the GOP nomination I tweeted and facebooked and told my friends that the Party of Lincoln will become the Party of George Wallace:
The Real Problem With Trump’s Rallies
Me: Not much diversity around Trump, Trump Rallies or the GOP. Count the minorities:
RL: “That said, nothing he’s ever said could possibly justify indiscriminately shooting people. Trump is not a terrorist, a supporter of terrorism or an enabler or terrorism. To suggest otherwise is a slander born of partisan hatred.”
Pipe-bomber Cesar Sayoc’s lawyers named Trump in their defense. They won’t be the only ones.
The El Paso shooter’s apparent manifesto overlaps with some of Trump’s rhetoric, but what gives the manifesto its motive force is its apocalyptic argument that slaughter is the way to fight “to reclaim” the country.
Me: “overlaps with some of Trump’s rhetoric” What if that rhetoric had NEVER TAKEN PLACE? From day one “Mexicans are rapists” to “Only in the panhandle…”
Me: “slaughter is the way to fight “to reclaim” the country.” When you are constantly talking about caravans, INFESTATIONS, invasions and sending TROOPS to taken on the ugly horde…..
RL: “The gulf between that view and Trump’s—that we should protect the border by getting Congress to build a wall and change some highly technical asylum rules—is vast. It is the difference between justifying criminality and advocating legislation, between quitting on America and calling for policies to solve one of its problems.”
64% oppose Trump’s move to build a wall; On asylum, just 30% support stricter rules
RL: “Much is made of Trump’s use of the word “invasion,” which also features in the manifesto. This is a loaded term that should be avoided. It speaks to a hostile intent among immigrants who are, by and large, simply coming here because they think they can improve their lives. Although the numbers and relatively robust organization of the various caravans, and the sheer scale of the current migrant inflow, make the word more apt than for routine immigration.”
Me: You are making MY argument – that Trump’s words breed HATE. Remember Annapolis?
Say something often enough and people start believing it! Words have consequences!
Me: Rich, heaven forbid, what do you write when a reporter is attacked?
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United States added to list of most dangerous countries for journalists for first time
Here’s how many times Trump attacked pipe bomb targets
The mail-bomb suspect’s van, annotated
Trump says he ‘could tone up’ rhetoric after mail-bomb arrest
RL: “But, again, the impulse to gun down these supposed invaders in cold blood while they are shopping at Walmart and the impulse to exclude them from entry into the country, or quickly and safely return them home once here, don’t exist in the same moral universe.”
Me: Donald Trump isn’t pulling a trigger, but laughing along with a rally crowd where someone yells “SHOOT THEM!” isn’t telling his base to NOT pull the trigger!
RL: “For all that the language police profess to care deeply about words, they aren’t very careful about rendering Trump’s. No one notes that in his Florida rally where a rally-goer notoriously yelled “shoot them,” and Trump shook his head and smiled, “only in the Panhandle,” the president was in the midst of saying of border patrol agents, “Don’t forget, we don’t let them, and we can’t let them, use weapons.” “
Me: Parse much Rich? Trump was talking about his outnumbered (his words) CBP agents vs the rushing horde (he described them as being in huge numbers) – this was not directed at the shouter that yelled “Shoot Them” and you know it.
RL: “The discrediting of views that show up in the manifesto only works one way. The shooter expresses a fear of automation and support for the Universal Basic Income. Should we hold that against Andrew Yang? The shooter fears we’re on the verge of an environmental disaster. Should Jay Inslee tone it down?”
Me: You are doing mental gymnastics now! Yang and Inslee have NEVER fostered HATE!
RL: “When a member of antifa was shot dead by police while attacking an ICE facility in Washington state, Democrats weren’t made to answer for their harsh attacks on immigration enforcement.”
Me: ANTIFA <> DEMOCRATS – Antifa is a bunch of attention-wanting idiots. Think Proud Boys but NOT GOP supporters. Trump IS POTUS. Trump IS the FACE of the GOP. Citing antifa is sad. YOU know there is no real ‘antifa’ like there are the Proud Boys and and the Oath Keepers. This is ‘rich’ (pardon the pun!) to call out Democrats over one shooting but not calling out Republicans for all the violence during Black Lives Matter PEACEFUL marches.
Me: Some screen shots from that webpage. Oakland? Minneapolis? Portland?
RL: “It’s even a count against Trump that the shooter, too, says that the Democrats favor “open borders.” If it’s going to be unacceptable to use the term “open borders” of a party that is manifestly getting closer and closer to embracing a policy of open borders, we might as well shut down the immigration debate now.”
Me: Considering the fact that NO Democrat supports open borders. That is a Donald Trump and GOP term. You keep pointing out words that both Trump and the El Paso shooter used. You do realize that?
Me: Biden does not have an Open Border. Percentage of US population that are unauthorized immigrants has not changed since 2000.
Rich Lowry closes with:
RL: “Which is, of course, part of the point. What much of the left doesn’t want to acknowledge is that restrictionists have a sincere belief that secure borders and a reformed legal immigration system would be better for our laws, our economy and our cultural cohesion.
If Trump is a deeply flawed tribune for this point of view, he’s not culpable of murder, either. The charge that he somehow is is yet another symptom of our rapidly degrading public debate rather than a call to elevate it.”
Me: My Retort to that. Let me preface by saying I have never been a Democrat. Voted for Reagan in 1980. Voted for Me in 2016 (Mom did too!) and Biden in 2020 but I live in a Red State so my vote doesn’t really matter (A discussion for another day). Democrats have offered bill after bill after bill over the years to fund more immigration courts. To fund more immigration judges. To fund more immigration resources. GOOGLE that Rich Lowry.
Me: Want to debate ME on anything Trump? I look forward to it Rich Lowry. My closing argument,
Editorial: Hate here? Hell, no
Invasion? Where have we heard that venomous, ridiculous word before? Where have we seen it?
On Facebook, for starters. By one tally, Trump has run around 2,200 Facebook ads since May 2018 mentioning the word “invasion,” most reportedly having to do with immigration. So is Trump responsible for inciting the attack in El Paso? He’s not blameless, that’s for sure.
Which is, of course, part of the point. What much of the left doesn’t want to acknowledge is that restrictionists have a sincere belief that secure borders and a reformed legal immigration system would be better for our laws, our economy and our cultural cohesion.
Me: How does it make our laws better?
Immigration and Crime
Conclusions on Immigration and Crime in the United States
Researchers in the United States have pointed out that the urban crime problem is not generated by immigrants, legal or undocumented, and that immigrants are not increasing crime rates. Socially disadvantaged neighborhoods may, however, make immigrant groups more susceptible to crime victimization when social support networks do not exist or are lacking. Despite the research findings on crime and immigration, the U.S. public mistakenly believes foreign-born immigrants to be dangerous criminals. To respond to undocumented immigration and the public fear of crime, anti-immigration laws enacted in the early 21st century attempt to hasten the deportation processes for undocumented immigrants. Such laws have increased the workload in the U.S. courts and consequently deportation is likely when the undocumented immigrant has committed a serious violent crime or agrees to removal. Immigration laws and policies should consider the unintended consequences of crime victimization on undocumented immigrants and the global conditions that cause mass migrations of people across dangerous borders.
“our economy“
Almost half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by American immigrants or their children
Immigration
The overriding impact of immigrants is to strengthen and enrich American culture, increase the total output of the economy, and raise the standard of living of American citizens. Immigrants are advantageous to the United States for several reasons: (1) Since they are willing to take a chance in a new land, they are self-selected on the basis on motivation, risk taking, work ethic, and other attributes beneficial to a nation. (2) They tend to come to the United States during their prime working years (the average age is 28), and they contribute to the workforce and make huge net contributions to old-age entitlement programs, primarily Social Security. (3) Immigrants tend to fill niches in the labor market where demand is highest relative to supply, complementing rather than directly competing with American workers. (4) Many immigrants arrive with extremely high skill levels, and virtually all, regardless of skill level, bring a strong desire to work. (5) Their children tend to reach high levels of achievement in American schools and in society at large.
The 14 Most Common Arguments against Immigration and Why They’re Wrong
” our cultural cohesion.” Are YOU, Rich Lowry, making the Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson “There Goes The Neighborhood!” Argument? Bigot Much?
LAURA INGRAHAM AIRS RACIALLY CHARGED SEGMENT AFTER FOX PRESIDENT REPORTEDLY WARNED PRODUCERS ABOUT CONTENT
Fox News host Laura Ingraham faced a backlash Thursday after saying, Wednesday night, that “the America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore,” citing immigration and demographics.
Watch: Tucker Carlson rails against America’s demographic changes
The Bible says to welcome immigrants. So why don’t white evangelicals?
“68 percent of white evangelicals say America has no responsibility to house refugees.”
Me: The GOP Bible?
Me: My Bible
